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Transcript For November 10, 2008, Hour 2
  http://www.moneypit.com/listen/past-shows-transcripts/mp2-11-10-08.mp3


  Hosts: Tom Kraeutler & Leslie Segrete

  (NOTE: Timestamps below correspond to the running time of the =
downloadable audio file of this show. Text represents a professional =
transcriptionist's understanding of  what was said. No guarantee of =
accuracy is expressed or implied. 'Ph' in parentheses indicates the =
phonetic or best guess of the actual spoken word.)

  BEGIN HOUR 2 TEXT:

  (promo/theme song)

  [audio timestamp: 0:025]

  TOM: Coast to coast and floorboards to shingles. This is The Money Pit =
Home Improvement Radio Show. I'm Tom Kraeutler.

  LESLIE: And I'm Leslie Segrete.

  TOM: Call us now with your home improvement question. Call us now with =
your do-it-yourself dilemma. The number is 1-888-MONEY-PIT. =
888-666-3974. You know with the holidays coming up in - wow, it's just a =
couple of weeks now, you might be getting ready to give your oven a =
workout with all that holiday baking and cookies and turkeys and all of =
that. But you know, there's one thing that you should not do with your =
oven this holiday season. It could shut down the whole party.=20

  LESLIE: (chuckling) The entire operation.

  TOM: We're going to tell you what it is in just a bit.=20

  LESLIE: And while we are on the hot topic of your kitchen, now is a =
great time to make some improvement that'll leave it looking light and =
airy. That's why we've cooked up a solution for a lighter-looking =
kitchen that doesn't cost you a dime.

  TOM: Also, coming up on today's show, is it possible for a paint job =
on a house to last for 25 or even 50 years? Well, there is some new =
technology that can deliver just that. It has a lot to do with applying =
the paint right at the factory in a climate-controlled setting. It's =
quite new; it's fantastic; it's a great innovation and with us to talk =
about it, at the bottom of the hour, will be the editor of Fine =
Homebuilding magazine, Kevin Ireton, to fill us in.=20

  LESLIE: And don't forget to get in our prize giveaway this hour. We're =
giving away the Kill a Watt Electricity Meter. It's up for grabs and =
it's a little gadget that's going to help you figure out exactly which =
of your household appliances are eating the most electricity so you know =
what to turn off and what to unplug and where to save energy. It's worth =
30 bucks but it could save you a ton more.

  TOM: Call us right now at 1-888-MONEY-PIT. 888-666-3974.=20

  Leslie, who's first?

  LESLIE: Heading out to Oregon to talk with Sheree about rust stains. =
What happened?

  SHEREE: Hi. Yeah, I have a concrete slab patio in my backyard and I =
think the fertilizer has caused some staining on the patio; it looks =
rust colored. And I'm wondering if there's a product or a process that =
will remove those stains for me.

  TOM: Do you have a sprinkler system?

  SHEREE: I do.

  TOM: I doubt it's the fertilizer that's causing the rust. It's =
probably just the rust that's coming up through the sprinkler system.=20

  SHEREE: Oh.

  TOM: Do you have well water?

  SHEREE: No. Runs the city water.

  TOM: Hmm. Well, regardless, I think that you can clean it with a =
solution of TSP, trisodium phosphate.

  SHEREE: Oh, OK.

  TOM: Available at hardware stores, home centers. Mix up a fairly =
strong solution; use a brush, like a bristle brush on a stick.

  SHEREE: OK.

  TOM: Scrub it in a little bit; rinse it off. That ought to brighten it =
up. And make sure you direct those sprinkler heads so that the water =
does not reach the patio because I think you're going to find that =
you're pulling up some iron from the ground and that's probably what's =
causing this rust stain.

  SHEREE: Yeah, it does seem to be around the edge of the patio, too; so =
that could be. OK, well thanks. I really appreciate it.

  TOM: You're welcome, Sheree. Thanks so much for calling us at =
888-MONEY-PIT.=20

  SHEREE: Jim in South Carolina needs some help with a kitchen flooring =
project. What's going on at your money pit?

  JIM: Well, greetings. I'm contemplating putting some tile down in our =
kitchen.

  TOM: OK.

  JIM: In my rough guesstimation, with my backer board I'm going to use =
under the tile and then my grout and then the tile, I don't feel like =
I'm going to have enough clearance under my dishwasher. It'll bottom out =
against my countertop.

  TOM: Right.

  JIM: And if I just tile up to the dishwasher and then the dishwasher =
dies on me, what'll I do; take the countertop off?

  LESLIE: (overlapping voices) How are you going to get it out?=20

  TOM: And therein lies the problem and the solution.

  LESLIE: (overlapping voices) Which Tom had to do. (laughs)

  TOM: Yeah, I actually had to do that, Jim, for my sister. She bought a =
house that had the tile right up to the front edge of the dishwasher =
and, of course, her dishwasher did eventually go and that was the only =
way we were able to get it out. So we were able to take the Formica =
countertop off but I mean if it had been Corian or solid-surface =
material or something like that, then we would have been chiseling out =
that floor, which would have been a big, stinking mess. So the point is =
that whenever possible, you do want to tile under the dishwasher but, as =
you have wisely calculated, you need to make sure that you have enough =
room left to get that dishwasher in there.

  Now what kind of flooring is on there right now and is there any =
opportunity to lower it?

  JIM: No, it's a regular plywood floor with just some raggedy linoleum =
over it.

  TOM: Well, you know it seems to me that you might have enough space =
then because, generally, you can put a floor that's about an inch thick =
down and still have room for the dishwasher. So I would remove the kick =
plate off of the front of the dishwasher and see how much adjustment you =
have left there.

  LESLIE: Yeah, how much clearance do those adjustable legs give you?

  TOM: And you can actually .

  JIM: About an eighth of an inch.

  TOM: Well, you know you can actually unscrew the legs off the =
dishwasher .

  LESLIE: And drop it down.

  TOM: . and just set it right back on top of the frame. Yeah.

  JIM: OK. OK. Well, keep your fingers crossed for me. (laughs)

  TOM: We'll do that. We'll do that. Jim, thanks so much for calling us =
at 888-MONEY-PIT. 888-666-3974.

  LESLIE: You are tuned to the Money Pit Home Improvement Radio Show. =
Pick up the phone and let us know what you're working on 24 hours a day, =
seven days a week; we can help you get the job done right the first time =
at 1-888-MONEY-PIT.

  TOM: 888-666-3974.=20

  Up next, there is one thing you definitely should not do with your =
oven before you take on a marathon baking session this holiday season. =
We're going to tell you what that is, next.

  [audio timestamp: 0:05:45.8]

  (theme song)

  ANNOUNCER: This portion of The Money Pit is brought to you by =
Aprilaire, makers of professionally-installed, high-efficiency air =
cleaners. For more information go to Aprilaire.com. Now, here are Tom =
and Leslie.

  TOM: Making good homes better, welcome back to the Money Pit Home =
Improvement Radio Show. I'm Tom Kraeutler.

  LESLIE: And I'm Leslie Segrete and you should give us a call at =
1-888-MONEY-PIT because one caller that we talk to on the air this hour =
is going to win a prize. We're giving away, from our friends over at =
CableOrganizer.com, a little tool called a Kill a Watt and it's an =
electricity meter. It's worth 30 bucks and you walk around your house =
with this little tool and it helps you assess the efficiency of all of =
your electric appliances throughout the house. And you can even =
calculate the cost of that appliance by the day, the week, the month or =
the year so you know exactly which appliances and what-not is going on =
in your house and wasting all of your energy dollars and then you can =
make those corrections to fix it. So really, it's a prize that keeps on =
giving.

  TOM: 888-666-3974. Call us right now with your home improvement =
question at 1-888-MONEY-PIT, which could be, "How can I get my house =
ready for the hordes of holiday visitors?" Well, if you're working on =
that, you know there's one thing you might not want to do and that is to =
clean your oven. Why? Because you know when you put the oven through the =
self-cleaning cycle, it actually puts that entire appliance under the =
most stress that it's really designed to take. And take this from =
experience, if you try to clean your oven like the night before =
everybody shows up, if it's going to break it will break right then .

  LESLIE: (chuckling) Of course it will.

  TOM: . and you will be out of luck trying to cook your holiday turkey. =
I don't think it will work really well if you try to toast it over a =
grill (Leslie chuckles) or something like that because you've got to =
like set up the Hibachi in the backyard or something.=20

  LESLIE: And this isn't just scare tactics. This actually happened to a =
friend of ours.

  TOM: Well, and it's happened, actually, to - it happened originally to =
a friend of mine and I started talking about it on the air and then a =
lot of people said it happened to them. So if you're going to clean your =
oven, don't do it like the night before the holiday. I mean do it now =
when you have some time to actually go to the store and by the repair =
parts if it happens to break (Leslie chuckles) or have the appliance =
repairman come out and work on it. But don't do it the evening of =
because you may find yourself oven-less the next day.

  888-666-3974. Let's get back to the phones.

  LESLIE: Kathleen in Florida is dealing with some leaky copper pipes. =
Tell us about what's going on.=20

  KATHLEEN: OK, within the last six months I've had pinhole leaks in =
three pipes in three separate areas of the house .

  TOM: Hmm.

  KATHLEEN: . one of which we repaired by putting new copper pipe in, =
which is all the soldering; another one we repaired by PVC pipe; and the =
one out in the garage, we repaired it by putting two clamps and a piece =
of soft rubber hose.

  TOM: OK. (chuckles) OK. That'll do it, too.

  KATHLEEN: So what's our life going to be like for the next year?

  TOM: Well, and that is the question, isn't it? Pinhole leaks are =
typically caused by a chemical reaction between the water and the copper =
and there are varying opinions on what exactly has to happen to cause =
that. But generally, you have to have a pH between 7 and 7.8 to make it =
start.=20

  There's a good article on this on a website called Toolbase.Org. It's =
an entire case study on pinhole leaks and, essentially, the strategy for =
repairing them is really three-fold. First of all, you repair the needed =
leaks as they develop, which is what you're doing now; but then you also =
plan and budget for a more major upgrade at the accessible parts of the =
plumbing system in the future. So in other words, whenever you have, =
say, some areas of plumbing pipe exposed, then you replace it and you do =
that sort of as the second stage. And then the third stage is to replace =
the pipes in the inaccessible areas but only if the leak develops.

  I would recommend that you consider using PEX, the plastic piping, =
whenever you do these replacements because that stuff seems to be really =
indestructible and is a good solution for replacing pinhole-failed =
copper pipes.=20

  LESLIE: Would it make sense if you're doing any renovations where =
you've got drywall off and plumbing pipes are exposed, to go ahead and =
do the changes then?

  TOM: Absolutely, you never want to cover the old copper pipe. If you =
have it exposed you want to replace it at the same time. So I would look =
for that case study. It's at Toolbase.org. Click on - Toolbase.org and =
then search for pinhole leaks. You'll find lots more solutions there.=20

  Thanks so much for calling us at 888-MONEY-PIT.

  LESLIE: Heading way out west to Hawaii to chat with Frank about the =
toilet. That's what you're calling us about? You don't want to invite us =
surfing? (Tom chuckles)

  FRANK: This is probably a very stupid question but I just have asked =
people and I just cannot get an answer.

  TOM: OK.

  FRANK: OK, is there any way to control the amount of water in the =
toilet bowl itself?

  TOM: Have you replaced the flush valve or fill valve lately and have =
seen the water going down? Has anything like that happened?

  FRANK: Oh, no. No, no, no. This is .

  TOM: No? It's just - by design it just doesn't seem to have too much =
water in it.

  FRANK: Right. And that - it has too much water in it. Is there any way =
I can decrease the amount goes into the bowl?

  TOM: Is this a high-efficiency toilet?

  FRANK: Yes, I guess so.

  TOM: OK. I would suspect that however much water is in that toilet, =
it's designed to have that; because the engineering on these toilets is =
such that they put the right amount of water and they also widen the =
trap and they glaze the inside of the trap. That's the path the waste =
flows through on the way out. And they do that so that they can be =
assured that when you flush the toilet it's actually going to work and =
that's as far as we're going to go with that explanation but you know =
what I mean. (Leslie chuckles) So I wouldn't - if I were you, I would =
not mess with that.=20

  FRANK: OK, I thank you so much.

  TOM: You're welcome.

  FRANK: It was a dumb question but thank you anyway. (Leslie chuckles)

  TOM: No problem. No problem. No dumb questions here. Thanks so much =
for calling us at 888-MONEY-PIT. 888-666-3974.

  I think Frank's got way too much time on his hands out there in =
Hawaii.

  LESLIE: And the worst is now there's a whole host of scenarios going =
through my mind about why, perhaps, there might be too much water in =
there and what causes the water (Tom chuckles) - I'm like, I don't even =
want to think about it.=20

  John in South Carolina is having some water issues at his house. =
What's going on?

  JOHN: Well, we're purchasing a house that was built in 1926. It's been =
added on over the years. It's got a wonderful piece of property. The =
problem is it has not been occupied for a year.=20

  TOM: OK.

  JOHN: And we had a home inspection and the home inspector detected a =
strong odor of rotten eggs when he ran the hot water through the kitchen =
sink.

  TOM: (overlapping voices) Mm-hmm, right. Mm-hmm. And did he tell you =
what was causing that?

  JOHN: He suspected that there was a bacteriological problem within the =
hot water heater itself .

  TOM: (overlapping voices) Hmm, no.=20

  JOHN: . and that I needed to install a sacrificial anode and that went =
right over my head.

  TOM: Well, actually, I think it's the opposite. I think it is the =
water heater anode rod. It's a rod that is made of sort of =
self-sacrificing magnesium and, basically, what that's designed to do is =
dissolve in certain conditions and it protects the tank from rust out =
but it can result in a sulfur odor.=20

  Now how old is the water heater?

  JOHN: Don't know yet.=20

  TOM: Take a look at the data plate on the water heater. It almost =
always has the date stamped on it. If it's close to 10 years old, =
replace the water heater.

  LESLIE: Just get a new one.

  TOM: Yeah, and if it's not, you can actually remove the anode. Now =
that will void the water heater warranty because it won't be protected =
against corrosion, but it will make the sulfur smell go away.

  LESLIE: So you would never replace the anode?

  TOM: Nah, I'd just remove it.

  LESLIE: Heading out to North Dakota to talk to Paula about a =
decorating woe. How can we help you?

  PAULA: Hi, I'm calling because I have a bathroom that is covered in =
popcorn (Leslie chuckles); the little stucco that's supposed to be on =
the ceiling is actually on the walls, too.

  TOM: Wow. Well, it's a good thing it's a bathroom because it's a small =
room.=20

  PAULA: Yep.

  TOM: Getting rid of it is a bit of a hassle but not impossible. What =
you want to do, Paula, is first of all you want to spray it down with =
some water and what works well for that is one of those pump-up garden =
sprayers. Get it sort of saturated and then you're going to carefully =
scrape it off. And the best tool that I've found to use for this is a =
spackle knife. And after you get it all off and you get it as smooth as =
you possibly can, two things: first of all, make sure you prime the wall =
with a good-quality primer; and then, secondly, when you put your =
topcoat on, make sure you use flat paint - don't use anything with a =
sheen. Even if you do a really super-good job at trying to get all that =
popcorn off, it's still going to be somewhat uneven on the wall and if =
you use a paint with a sheen it'll show up whenever the light hits it. =
So if you use a flat paint it'll look really good.

  PAULA: Right. But there again, my problem too is that being a bathroom =
it needs to be really scrubbable, too.

  TOM: Then I would use a scrubbable flat. I would use a washable flat =
and I would use one with a mildicide.

  PAULA: OK, thank you.

  TOM: You're welcome, Paula. Thanks so much for calling us at =
888-MONEY-PIT.

  LESLIE: HVAC maintenance is on Eileen and George's minds. What can we =
do for you?

  TOM: I was wondering - I have to maintenance my furnace. It's a new =
house that I have; about three years old. What do I need to do and why =
do I need to do it?

  TOM and LESLIE: (chuckling) OK.

  TOM: Eileen, I guess suffice to say you've never done any maintenance =
work to this furnace before, huh?

  EILEEN: Well - no, actually, my mother used to do it .

  TOM: OK.

  EILEEN: . and she's no longer - she's passed.

  TOM: What kind of furnace is this? Is it gas?

  EILEEN: It's electric heat and air with a heat pump.

  TOM: Oh, it's a heat pump. OK.

  EILEEN: Brand new.

  TOM: Alright. Well, if it's a heat pump, then you may actually not =
need to do too much because the service for the heat pump is essentially =
the same as the service for the air conditioning. A heat pump is =
essentially an air conditioner that's got a reversing mechanism so that =
it can actually heat in the winter and cool you in the summer. It's not =
like having a gas furnace where .

  EILEEN: Right.

  TOM: . you know you have to run that in the winter and it gets dirty =
and needs to be cleaned separate from the air conditioner. But have you =
- did you have the air conditioning system serviced this summer?

  EILEEN: Yes.

  TOM: Well, I think you're probably OK, then. There's not much else you =
need to do.

  EILEEN: So I don't .

  TOM: No. Just because it's turned to the heating season, you don't =
have to actually do something extra because it's the same service. You =
essentially have a compressor. Now, you know the only other thing you =
might want to make sure that you're doing is changing those filters on a =
regular basis or installing an electronic air cleaner.

  EILEEN: Right, I do that.

  TOM: But other than that, there's not much that you need to do.

  EILEEN: OK.

  TOM: Alright?

  EILEEN: I thank you very much for your help. Appreciate it.

  TOM: Alright. Well, good luck with that project. Thanks so much for =
calling us at 888-MONEY-PIT.

  LESLIE: Rick in Washington needs some help with a bathroom remodel. =
How's the project going?

  RICK: It's going pretty well. We're down to deciding which type of tub =
we want and we're wondering if a ball-and-claw cast iron tub would gain =
us any value in the home after the remodel, versus a resin-style - the =
newer-style resin tubs.

  TOM: Well, the good news, Rick, is both will get you equally clean. =
(Leslie and Rick chuckle) In terms of return on investment, you know I =
think that a remodeled bathroom by itself is going to be a great =
improvement because surveys are showing that you get somewhere in the =
area of 80 to 90 percent return on investment for remodeled bathrooms =
and remodeled kitchens.=20

  Now in terms of which one is going to be right for your project; =
that's more of a decorating choice, I would think, Leslie.

  LESLIE: Yeah, I mean absolutely. If your home is of the certain time =
period and architectural styling where the claw-footed tub is really the =
right choice, then - I mean in my opinion, you cannot compete with a =
claw-footed tub. They're gorgeous; they're ginormous; you can take a =
beautiful, deep, long soak in a bathtub like that and you've just hit =
the nail on the head for my dreams of a bath and I would buy your house =
tomorrow if that was the case. But I really think it's up .

  RICK: See, the house is - I'm sorry. The house is a 1931 farmhouse, so =
we didn't know if there was an inherent value in going with an =
older-style tub versus a newer-style resin tub.

  LESLIE: I think if, consistently, you're going with historically =
accurate details, you're better off to go with the cast iron tub.

  RICK: OK, very good. Also, we love your show. Thank you so much for =
the help.

  LESLIE: (overlapping voices) Oh, our pleasure.

  TOM: (overlapping voices) You're welcome, Rick. Thanks so much for =
calling us at 888-MONEY-PIT.

  LESLIE: Well, the fall is the perfect time of year to tackle a =
painting project, but what if you never, ever wanted to paint ever =
again? Well, it is a possibility and we're going to tell you all about =
it, next.

  [audio timestamp: 0:18:19.1]

  (theme song)

  ANNOUNCER: The Money Pit is brought to you by the Western Red Cedar =
Lumber Association. Discover western red cedar's unique beauty, =
performance and environmental benefits at RealCedar.org.

  TOM: This is The Money Pit Home Improvement Radio Show. I'm Tom =
Kraeutler.

  LESLIE: And I'm Leslie Segrete.

  TOM: Call us right now with your home improvement question. Call us =
right now with your do-it-yourself dilemma. The number is =
1-888-MONEY-PIT. Call us right now if you'd like to find out how you can =
have a house that you can paint once - well, sort of - or at least order =
it painted (Leslie chuckles) and never have to touch it again for a =
long, long time. You know we are big fans here of modular homes; those =
that are built in factory settings that are climate and quality =
controlled.

  LESLIE: Yeah, and now there is a way for you to actually get a =
factory-finished paint job for your existing home that you live in right =
now - whether it's a brand, spanking new home or a hundred-year-old home =
- and this paint job could last you 25, even 50 years. We've got a great =
guest here to tell us all about it and it's our friend from Fine =
Homebuilding magazine, the editor, Kevin Ireton.

  Welcome.

  KEVIN: Hi, Leslie. Hi, Tom.

  TOM: Kevin, you know this is something that I don't think we ever =
would have thought of as recent as just a few years ago; that you could =
have a paint application on wood siding that would last more than, say, =
seven or eight years. So how is it that the modular industry has sort of =
figured this out?

  KEVIN: Well, I mean as you point out, everything is getting painted in =
a factory these days and finally somebody realized, "Hey, you know we =
mill this siding and then we ship it to a lumberyard. We can ship it to =
a factory finisher to have it painted first." And I'm sort of =
embarrassed that I didn't realize that this was going on because I've =
known for a few years now that you can get your cedar siding or fiber =
cement siding preprimed.=20

  TOM: Right.

  LESLIE: Mm-hmm.

  KEVIN: And it's just - you know it's sort of obvious, when you think =
about it, that they can - you know they've got it at a factory where =
they're putting that primer on. While they've got it there, they can =
also put on one or two finish coats of whatever color you specify.

  LESLIE: How is it possible? I mean is it really just the interior =
conditions, climate control, that actually cause the paint to adhere =
better, longer than if you were to put it on in an exterior setting?

  KEVIN: That's most of it but another factor is UV degradation. It =
turns out that if raw wood - cedar, in particular - gets exposed to =
sunlight, it begins to degrade immediately and paint will not adhere as =
well to it.=20

  TOM: So one of the keys here is that as soon as the wood is milled by =
the manufacturer it's sent right to the finish house so it never sees =
the light of day, literally.

  LESLIE: Interesting.

  KEVIN: Exactly. And then as Leslie points out, because you can control =
dust and humidity and temperature in a factory and you obviously can't =
on a jobsite, those things also contribute to the paint lasting much =
longer than it typically would.

  TOM: Well, it sounds like it would definitely last a lot longer but =
what about the cost? Is this a situation where it's also less expensive =
to paint it in a factory than to, say, hire a housepainter to come out =
and do it after the siding is installed?

  KEVIN: Tom, our research showed the answer to that question is yes. =
It's really hard to get an estimate on a paint job, hypothetically, but =
we tried. And what we came up with was a 3,000-square-foot house with a =
factory-finished paint job coming in at about $3,500 and site-painted, =
that same house would cost from $7,000 to $10,000.

  TOM: Oh, yeah. Or more. $3,500 is a pretty inexpensive paint job.

  Now what about, say, the damage that's done as a result of the siding =
installation process? I mean we have cuts and nail holes and trim and =
things like that .

  LESLIE: (overlapping voices) Mm-hmm, things that need to be touched =
up.

  KEVIN: That's a really important sort of caveat to talk about here =
because in many cases, even with the factory-applied paint job, you will =
need to put one final coat on after the siding has been installed. It's =
definitely true with cedar; a little less the case with fiber cement =
because fiber cement seems to hold up a little better and you can get =
color-matched nails for your fiber cement.

  TOM: Yeah, but since that siding is now being protected from UV; =
really, since it actually arrived at the site, there's really no chance =
for degradation. So you're really just putting a coat on for extra =
measure there.

  KEVIN: Exactly. And again, important to remember that when you're =
installing the siding, any of those cut ends will need to be painted =
before the siding goes up.=20

  LESLIE: Is there any guarantee to the durability of the paint? Are =
there warranties that come along with this? I mean can they even give =
you a warranty?

  KEVIN: They absolutely give you a warranty. Most warranties are for 15 =
years if you've got one finish coat at the factory and if you put two =
finish coats on at the factory, the typical warranty on the paint job is =
25 years.

  TOM: What wood siding manufacturers are using this process now, Kevin?

  KEVIN: In terms of wood siding, you know a lot of the cedar siding =
that we use in this country is actually milled up in Canada.

  TOM: Right.

  KEVIN: So the way to get at this is simply to go to your local =
lumberyard and find out whatever cedar siding they're carrying and they =
can usually, at the lumberyard, arrange for a factory-finish paint job.=20

  TOM: Fantastic. Kevin Ireton, the editor of Fine Homebuilding =
magazine. Great tip about a way to, essentially, order your siding =
prepainted and have it last up to 25 years.

  Thanks, Kevin.

  KEVIN: You're welcome.

  LESLIE: Well, thank you so much, Kevin, for thoroughly making my =
laziness legitimate - now I never have to paint the outside of my house =
again (Tom laughs) and I'm going to use it when I tell my husband, "But =
let's get the manufactured tiles (ph) to come put them on the outside of =
my house. Kevin says I can." So I thank you for that.

  Alright, is your dark and gloomy kitchen making your cooking chores =
just plain dreary? Well, let the light in. It's easy and it's free and =
we are going to tell you how, next.

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  ANNOUNCER: The Money Pit is brought to you by Therma-Tru, the nation's =
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  TOM: Making good homes better, welcome back to the Money Pit Home =
Improvement Radio Show. I'm Tom Kraeutler.

  LESLIE: And I'm Leslie Segrete.

  TOM: And did you ever wonder which appliance in your house uses the =
most energy? Well, it can be hard to tell; in fact, you might be =
surprised when you find out there is one way to tell for sure and we're =
giving it away this hour. It's a cool tool called a Kill a Watt =
Electricity Meter. It's available from the folks at CableOrganizer.com =
and it's going to go off to you if you pick up the phone and call us =
right now at 1-888-MONEY-PIT with your home improvement question.

  LESLIE: And that Kill a Watt is certainly going to help you save a lot =
of money and if you're looking to save a few more bucks here and there, =
think about turning off the lights. We've got a tip that's really going =
to help you let in the light, save some money and especially if you =
don't like working in a dark area and a dark workspace or if your =
kitchen is just plain dreary, this is the tip for you and it's perfect =
for the cooler months - fall and winter.

  All you need to do is go into your kitchen or your dining room and =
take off those window coverings and take advantage of the full, natural =
light. You can forego those window treatments just for these seasons. =
Put up some mirrors across from the windows. It's going to help double =
the light that's coming in and it's going to make the room feel a lot =
more open and a lot more airy. It really does help to change the feel of =
the space. And in the winter months, it gets dark so early; you really =
don't need them anyway.=20

  TOM: And that tip comes straight from the pages of our new book, My =
Home, My Money Pit: Your Guide to Every Home Improvement Adventure, and =
I think it's titled Get Naked. (Leslie chuckles) Not you. Your windows. =
It actually is a great decorating tip.=20

  Let's get back to the phones. 888-666-3974. Leslie, who's next?

  LESLIE: Paul in Indiana has a roofing question. What can we do for =
you?

  PAUL: I have a house that was built in 1928. It is two stories and it =
has the red tile roof.

  TOM: That sounds gorgeous.

  PAUL: They're nice. They're nice looking. But during a heavy rain, we =
have recently developed a leak that will come to the main floor, =
basically in the kitchen area, from either the upstairs - not totally =
sure if it's the attic or we do have a door to outside that looks like =
it might have been a patio design at one point. But on the red tile =
roof, I'm not comfortable taking that stuff off and I'm kind of looking =
for maybe a contractor that would specialize in that type of stuff if =
it's determined to be that.

  TOM: Well, first of all, in terms of sourcing out that leak, if you =
can get up into the attic with a flashlight, the place that I would =
check is specifically around where plumbing vents come through the roof. =
Very often you get a boot around that that will break down because it's =
only rubber, generally, and it'll break down. So matter how good your =
tile is - the chances are the leak is not coming through the main field =
of the tile; it's probably coming at one of the points where there's =
some break in the roof, like where a chimney is or where a plumbing vent =
goes through.

  Now, in terms of finding a contractor, it is difficult to find =
good-quality contractors but there are some services that can help you =
do that, one of which is called Angie's List.

  LESLIE: It's a great resource. In fact, every person who is making a =
recommendation has no affiliation to the business whatsoever.

  PAUL: Ah.

  LESLIE: They're just regular consumers, like you and myself, who were =
really happy or unhappy with a job and then go ahead and post it there. =
So it's policed in a way to know that the company themselves are not =
putting up good information about themselves. And it's very local, so =
you can find a lot of folks in your area.

  PAUL: Oh, OK. Great.

  TOM: Sort of a social networking solution for finding a good-quality =
contractor.

  PAUL: Very good.

  TOM: Paul, thanks so much for calling us at 888-MONEY-PIT.=20

  LESLIE: Now we're going to talk to Michelle in Utah about brightening =
up a door. What can we do for you.=20

  MICHELLE: I have an exterior door that I just had installed and it =
wasn't painted. It's a fiberglass door with some glass inside of it and =
around the glass there is a vinyl or plastic sort of material that's =
holding the glass in there. And I had to paint the door and I got some =
acrylic paint from a paint store.

  TOM: Mm-hmm, and it peeled right off, right?

  MICHELLE: And yeah, it's peeling off. The fiberglass part it's staying =
on just fine. But I've tried twice. I .

  TOM: Well, when you painted it, have you used a primer or are you just =
putting the topcoat of paint right over it?

  MICHELLE: I'm putting the top coat right over it.=20

  TOM: OK, here's what I would do. I would try to get all the old paint =
off; I would clean it really well with mineral spirits or acetone or =
whatever type of product you're using. And then I would get a small pint =
can of oil-based primer and I would prime it first. Primers have more =
adhesive qualities than the topcoat and they're designed to stick. I =
would prime it with an oil-based primer; nice, dry day; let it dry =
really, really well and then you could put whatever topcoat over that. =
And I think you'll have better adhesion luck with that.

  Now, if your door was new and you didn't want to paint it; you wanted =
to stain it, there actually is a brand new stain kit on the market =
that's made by Therma-Tru that works very well. It comes with a =
five-year warranty and you can actually stain the door to look like =
wood. And these guys invented the fiberglass door so you know this is =
going to work. So that might be an option if you didn't want the paint =
look. But if you want the paint look, then what I think you should do is =
clean off what you have there, prime it and then repaint it.

  LESLIE: Jan in Michigan needs some help with a patio. What happened?

  JAN: Oh, well I have a patio that's quite old; it's about 20 years =
old. And they used pavers and in between each paver they grouted it with =
mortar.=20

  TOM and LESLIE: OK.

  JAN: And it's all broken up. I'm tired of killing the weeds. I'm =
always trying to kill the weeds. I'm tired of it. So I asked the one =
landscape guy in our town to come and could he fix it and he said, =
"Yeah." So he brought a bag of like quickset cement and brushed it in =
and watered it and that didn't work at all. Now it's worse than ever =
because he had powerwashed it before he did that; so now I have these =
big, old gaping holes where the mortar was (Tom chuckles) and plus the =
weeds. So I have everything.

  TOM: Alright. That's what happens when you call 1-800-SOME-GUY (all =
chuckle) to come fix it, you know?

  JAN: Yeah.

  TOM: You know there's a product for this that QUIKRETE makes. It .

  LESLIE: Mm-hmm, it's called Joint-Lock; PowerLoc jointing sand.=20

  TOM: It's a sand that basically you sweep in and then you do water it, =
but it has a polymer in it so it solidifies and stops the weeds from =
growing back up.=20

  LESLIE: Mm-hmm, but it's sort of still kind of flexible; so as it =
moves about with pressure from walking it's not going to crack apart. If =
you do ever need to change out a paver, you can sort of break that seal =
and pull out the stone without having to deal with a major concreting =
issue.=20

  JAN: OK, thank you so much. I'll try that fix.

  TOM: You're welcome. Thanks so much for calling us at 888-MONEY-PIT.

  LESLIE: I mean it's just a major, major maintenance project. You know =
where we live, on the northeast, my family has a vacation home that has =
slate; beautiful slate around a pool. But even out there on Long Island, =
you get the freeze and thaw cycle. Every, single summer it's a major =
maintenance project with that concrete and the mortar joints. It's just =
terrible.

  TOM: This is The Money Pit Home Improvement Radio Show.=20

  Up next, tips to help maintain your hardware floors. They take a =
beating. We're going to tell you how to keep them looking in tiptop =
shape, next.

  [audio timestamp: 0:32:21.1]

  (theme song)

  ANNOUNCER: This portion of The Money Pit is brought to you by Ryobi, =
manufacturer of professional-feature power tools and accessories with an =
affordable price for the do-it-yourselfer. Ryobi Power Tools. Pro =
features. Affordable price. Available exclusively at The Home Depot. =
Now, here are Tom and Leslie.

  TOM: Welcome back to the Money Pit Home Improvement Radio Show. I'm =
Tom Kraeutler.

  LESLIE: And I'm Leslie Segrete.

  Head online and click on MoneyPit.com and ask Tom and Leslie your =
question by e-mail and we're going to jump right into that e-mail bag =
right now. We've got one from Maurice in Connecticut who writes: "What =
wax would you recommend for a hardwood floor with a poly finish?"

  TOM: Actually we would recommend no wax, Maurice, because you're not =
really supposed to hard wax over polyurethane finishes; you're just =
supposed to clean them.

  LESLIE: It's one or the other, right?

  TOM: Yeah. If you have a varnish finish - you know the old-fashioned =
kind - then you might want to use like a paste wax; a floor paste wax. =
It's important that it's a floor wax because they're not slippery. But =
for polyurethane, you're really just supposed to clean them.

  Now, if the floor is really getting worn and has totally lost its =
shine, it might be time to refinish the floor and a good trick of the =
trade for that is to not sand it down all the way but just to lightly =
sand the surface with a floor buffer and a sanding screen instead of a =
buffer pad. That will just sort of smooth off the surface of it and you =
can put one or two coats of poly over that and it'll be looking shiny =
all over again.

  LESLIE: Alright, now we're going to take one from Roma in Washington =
who writes: "We're finishing a new basement apartment in a 1920s house. =
We cut an exterior door hole into the concrete foundation and now we =
realize the bottom of the door foundation is almost seven feet to the =
ground surface."

  TOM: Don't you think you should have figured that out before you cut =
the hole in wall. (chuckles)

  LESLIE: Ooh. "We need to protect the house from water and install =
stairs." Do you think? "In all our reading, it appears we will have to =
dig down from our already seven feet to drain the water away from the =
cement pad area outside the door. Is there another - and they write =
"read magic" - way to do this?" (Tom laughs) "The apartment is nearly =
ready to live in but we need the exterior entrance."

  TOM: Hmm. Well, you're going to have to create, essentially, a =
stairwell that would be like retaining walls that surround the sides of =
that opening. Now, in terms of the drain, you could, in fact, install a =
drain beneath that and then run that sort of around the house out to the =
street. I suspect that part of the landscape of this area is going to be =
lower than that actual doorway; that would be the way to drain that. But =
as far as the rest of the area, just make sure it slopes away from those =
retaining walls so no water falls back into that space.=20

  LESLIE: So Roma, no magic; just a lot of hard work. Good luck.

  TOM: Well, many of you don't know that Leslie is a fantastic cook. But =
the truth is that before she became so talented at that, her =
Thanksgiving shopping list used to include a turkey, stuffing and a fire =
extinguisher.

  LESLIE: (chuckling) That's terrible.=20

  TOM: Fortunately, things have gotten a lot better around the Segrete =
household since those days - those early days of her cooking adventures =
and in today's edition of Leslie's Last Word she's got some tips on why =
turkey and stuffing don't necessarily go together.

  LESLIE: And I have to tell you, I speak from experience. This happened =
a Thanksgiving when I was much smaller and not doing as much of the =
cooking. And my sister Stephanie - gotta love her - she created this =
sort of lamb, rack of lamb, masterpiece; you know you deviate from the =
menu once and then 15 family members are in the bathroom fighting for =
hours and hours .

  TOM: There's no going back.

  LESLIE: . and there's not enough toilet paper to fix the situation. So =
cook what you know but make sure that you maintain a proper food prep =
area. It really is so important because you don't want the folks that =
you've invited over to get sick. So you want to make sure that you never =
prepare food on a surface that's been previously touched by the raw =
turkey or any raw meat that you're preparing. You also want to be sure =
to thoroughly clean and sanitize all your cutting boards, your =
countertops and the utensils that have come in contact with any raw =
meat. Wash your hands a lot. This is going to help prevent spreading =
harmful bacteria, because the last thing you want is your entire family =
reunion heading on over to the emergency room because, believe me, the =
party does not continue there.

  TOM: Speaking of which, coming up next week on The Money Pit, we're =
going to have toilet tips (Leslie laughs) info on everything that you =
need from finding a leak to some great innovations in new toilets. =
There's a theme for the whole end of the show. (Leslie laughs)

  I'm Tom Kraeutler.

  LESLIE: And I'm Leslie Segrete.

  TOM: Remember, you can do it yourself .

  LESLIE: But you don't have to do it alone.

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  888-666-3974. You know with the holidays coming up in =96 wow, it=92s =
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kitchen, now is=20
  a great time to make some improvement that=92ll leave it looking light =
and airy.=20
  That=92s why we=92ve cooked up a solution for a lighter-looking =
kitchen that=20
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show, is it=20
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  first?<BR><BR>LESLIE: Heading out to Oregon to talk with Sheree about =
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  home centers. Mix up a fairly strong solution; use a brush, like a =
bristle=20
  brush on a stick.<BR><BR>SHEREE: OK.<BR><BR>TOM: Scrub it in a little =
bit;=20
  rinse it off. That ought to brighten it up. And make sure you direct =
those <A=20
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  heads so that the water does not reach the patio because I think =
you=92re going=20
  to find that you=92re pulling up some iron from the ground and =
that=92s probably=20
  what=92s causing this rust stain.<BR><BR>SHEREE: Yeah, it does seem to =
be around=20
  the edge of the patio, too; so that could be. OK, well thanks. I =
really=20
  appreciate it.<BR><BR>TOM: You=92re welcome, Sheree. Thanks so much =
for calling=20
  us at 888-MONEY-PIT. <BR><BR>SHEREE: Jim in South Carolina needs some =
help=20
  with a kitchen flooring project. What=92s going on at your money=20
  pit?<BR><BR>JIM: Well, greetings. I=92m contemplating putting some =
tile down in=20
  our kitchen.<BR><BR>TOM: OK.<BR><BR>JIM: In my rough guesstimation, =
with my=20
  backer board I=92m going to use under the tile and then my grout and =
then the=20
  tile, I don=92t feel like I=92m going to have enough clearance under =
my=20
  dishwasher. It=92ll bottom out against my countertop.<BR><BR>TOM:=20
  Right.<BR><BR>JIM: And if I just tile up to the dishwasher and then =
the=20
  dishwasher dies on me, what=92ll I do; take the countertop =
off?<BR><BR>LESLIE:=20
  (overlapping voices) How are you going to get it out? <BR><BR>TOM: And =
therein=20
  lies the problem and the solution.<BR><BR>LESLIE: (overlapping voices) =
Which=20
  Tom had to do. (laughs)<BR><BR>TOM: Yeah, I actually had to do that, =
Jim, for=20
  my sister. She bought a house that had the tile right up to the front =
edge of=20
  the dishwasher and, of course, her dishwasher did eventually go and =
that was=20
  the only way we were able to get it out. So we were able to take the =
Formica=20
  countertop off but I mean if it had been Corian or solid-surface =
material or=20
  something like that, then we would have been chiseling out that floor, =
which=20
  would have been a big, stinking mess. So the point is that whenever =
possible,=20
  you do want to tile under the dishwasher but, as you have wisely =
calculated,=20
  you need to make sure that you have enough room left to get that =
dishwasher in=20
  there.<BR><BR>Now what kind of flooring is on there right now and is =
there any=20
  opportunity to lower it?<BR><BR>JIM: No, it=92s a regular <A =
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  floor with just some raggedy linoleum over it.<BR><BR>TOM: Well, you =
know it=20
  seems to me that you might have enough space then because, generally, =
you can=20
  put a floor that=92s about an inch thick down and still have room for =
the=20
  dishwasher. So I would remove the kick plate off of the front of the=20
  dishwasher and see how much adjustment you have left =
there.<BR><BR>LESLIE:=20
  Yeah, how much clearance do those adjustable legs give =
you?<BR><BR>TOM: And=20
  you can actually =85<BR><BR>JIM: About an eighth of an =
inch.<BR><BR>TOM: Well,=20
  you know you can actually unscrew the legs off the dishwasher =
=85<BR><BR>LESLIE:=20
  And drop it down.<BR><BR>TOM: =85 and just set it right back on top of =
the=20
  frame. Yeah.<BR><BR>JIM: OK. OK. Well, keep your fingers crossed for =
me.=20
  (laughs)<BR><BR>TOM: We=92ll do that. We=92ll do that. Jim, thanks so =
much for=20
  calling us at 888-MONEY-PIT. 888-666-3974.<BR><BR>LESLIE: You are =
tuned to the=20
  Money Pit Home Improvement Radio Show. Pick up the phone and let us =
know what=20
  you=92re working on 24 hours a day, seven days a week; we can help you =
get the=20
  job done right the first time at 1-888-MONEY-PIT.<BR><BR>TOM: =
888-666-3974.=20
  <BR><BR>Up next, there is one thing you definitely should not do with =
your=20
  oven before you take on a marathon baking session this holiday season. =
We=92re=20
  going to tell you what that is, next.<BR><BR>[audio timestamp:=20
  0:05:45.8]<BR><BR>(theme song)<BR><BR>ANNOUNCER: This portion of The =
Money Pit=20
  is brought to you by Aprilaire, makers of professionally-installed,=20
  high-efficiency air cleaners. For more information go to =
Aprilaire.com. Now,=20
  here are Tom and Leslie.<BR><BR>TOM: Making good homes better, welcome =
back to=20
  the Money Pit Home Improvement Radio Show. I=92m Tom=20
  Kraeutler.<BR><BR><STRONG><FONT color=3D#ff0000>LESLIE: And I=92m =
Leslie Segrete=20
  and you should give us a call at 1-888-MONEY-PIT because one caller =
that we=20
  talk to on the air this hour is going to win a prize. We=92re giving =
away, from=20
  our friends over at CableOrganizer.com, a little tool called a Kill a =
Watt and=20
  it=92s an electricity meter. It=92s worth 30 bucks and you walk around =
your house=20
  with this little tool and it helps you assess the efficiency of all of =
your=20
  electric appliances throughout the house. And you can even calculate =
the cost=20
  of that appliance by the day, the week, the month or the year so you =
know=20
  exactly which appliances and what-not is going on in your house and =
wasting=20
  all of your energy dollars and then you can make those corrections to =
fix it.=20
  So really, it=92s a prize that keeps on =
giving.</FONT></STRONG><BR><BR>TOM:=20
  888-666-3974. Call us right now with your home improvement question at =

  1-888-MONEY-PIT, which could be, =93How can I get my house ready for =
the hordes=20
  of holiday visitors?=94 Well, if you=92re working on that, you know =
there=92s one=20
  thing you might not want to do and that is to clean your oven. Why? =
Because=20
  you know when you put the oven through the self-cleaning cycle, it =
actually=20
  puts that entire appliance under the most stress that it=92s really =
designed to=20
  take. And take this from experience, if you try to clean your oven =
like the=20
  night before everybody shows up, if it=92s going to break it will =
break right=20
  then =85<BR><BR>LESLIE: (chuckling) Of course it will.<BR><BR>TOM: =85 =
and you=20
  will be out of luck trying to cook your holiday turkey. I don=92t =
think it will=20
  work really well if you try to toast it over a grill (Leslie chuckles) =
or=20
  something like that because you=92ve got to like set up the Hibachi in =
the=20
  backyard or something. <BR><BR>LESLIE: And this isn=92t just scare =
tactics. This=20
  actually happened to a friend of ours.<BR><BR>TOM: Well, and it=92s =
happened,=20
  actually, to =96 it happened originally to a friend of mine and I =
started=20
  talking about it on the air and then a lot of people said it happened =
to them.=20
  So if you=92re going to clean your oven, don=92t do it like the night =
before the=20
  holiday. I mean do it now when you have some time to actually go to =
the store=20
  and by the repair parts if it happens to break (Leslie chuckles) or =
have the=20
  appliance repairman come out and work on it. But don=92t do it the =
evening of=20
  because you may find yourself oven-less the next =
day.<BR><BR>888-666-3974.=20
  Let=92s get back to the phones.<BR><BR>LESLIE: Kathleen in Florida is =
dealing=20
  with some leaky copper pipes. Tell us about what=92s going on. =
<BR><BR>KATHLEEN:=20
  OK, within the last six months I=92ve had pinhole leaks in three pipes =
in three=20
  separate areas of the house =85<BR><BR>TOM: Hmm.<BR><BR>KATHLEEN: =85 =
one of which=20
  we repaired by putting new copper pipe in, which is all the soldering; =
another=20
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  and the one out in the <A class=3DkLink oncontextmenu=3D"return =
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  we repaired it by putting two clamps and a piece of soft <A =
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  hose.<BR><BR>TOM: OK. (chuckles) OK. That=92ll do it, =
too.<BR><BR>KATHLEEN: So=20
  what=92s our life going to be like for the next year?<BR><BR>TOM: =
Well, and that=20
  is the question, isn=92t it? Pinhole leaks are typically caused by a =
chemical=20
  reaction between the water and the copper and there are varying =
opinions on=20
  what exactly has to happen to cause that. But generally, you have to =
have a pH=20
  between 7 and 7.8 to make it start. <BR><BR>There=92s a good article =
on this on=20
  a website called Toolbase.Org. It=92s an entire case study on pinhole =
leaks and,=20
  essentially, the strategy for repairing them is really three-fold. =
First of=20
  all, you repair the needed leaks as they develop, which is what =
you=92re doing=20
  now; but then you also plan and budget for a more major upgrade at the =

  accessible parts of the <A class=3DkLink oncontextmenu=3D"return =
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  in the future. So in other words, whenever you have, say, some areas =
of=20
  plumbing pipe exposed, then you replace it and you do that sort of as =
the=20
  second stage. And then the third stage is to replace the pipes in the=20
  inaccessible areas but only if the leak develops.<BR><BR>I would =
recommend=20
  that you consider using PEX, the plastic piping, whenever you do these =

  replacements because that stuff seems to be really indestructible and =
is a=20
  good solution for replacing pinhole-failed copper pipes. =
<BR><BR>LESLIE: Would=20
  it make sense if you=92re doing any <A class=3DkLink =
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  where you=92ve got drywall off and plumbing pipes are exposed, to go =
ahead and=20
  do the changes then?<BR><BR>TOM: Absolutely, you never want to cover =
the old=20
  copper pipe. If you have it exposed you want to replace it at the same =
time.=20
  So I would look for that case study. It=92s at Toolbase.org. Click on =
=96=20
  Toolbase.org and then search for pinhole leaks. You=92ll find lots =
more=20
  solutions there. <BR><BR>Thanks so much for calling us at=20
  888-MONEY-PIT.<BR><BR>LESLIE: Heading way out west to Hawaii to chat =
with=20
  Frank about the toilet. That=92s what you=92re calling us about? You =
don=92t want to=20
  invite us surfing? (Tom chuckles)<BR><BR>FRANK: This is probably a =
very stupid=20
  question but I just have asked people and I just cannot get an=20
  answer.<BR><BR>TOM: OK.<BR><BR>FRANK: OK, is there any way to control =
the=20
  amount of water in the toilet bowl itself?<BR><BR>TOM: Have you =
replaced the=20
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  or fill valve lately and have seen the water going down? Has anything =
like=20
  that happened?<BR><BR>FRANK: Oh, no. No, no, no. This is =
=85<BR><BR>TOM: No?=20
  It=92s just =96 by design it just doesn=92t seem to have too much =
water in=20
  it.<BR><BR>FRANK: Right. And that =96 it has too much water in it. Is =
there any=20
  way I can decrease the amount goes into the bowl?<BR><BR>TOM: Is this =
a=20
  high-efficiency toilet?<BR><BR>FRANK: Yes, I guess so.<BR><BR>TOM: OK. =
I would=20
  suspect that however much water is in that toilet, it=92s designed to =
have that;=20
  because the engineering on these toilets is such that they put the =
right=20
  amount of water and they also widen the trap and they glaze the inside =
of the=20
  trap. That=92s the path the waste flows through on the way out. And =
they do that=20
  so that they can be assured that when you flush the toilet it=92s =
actually going=20
  to work and that=92s as far as we=92re going to go with that =
explanation but you=20
  know what I mean. (Leslie chuckles) So I wouldn=92t =96 if I were you, =
I would not=20
  mess with that. <BR><BR>FRANK: OK, I thank you so much.<BR><BR>TOM: =
You=92re=20
  welcome.<BR><BR>FRANK: It was a dumb question but thank you anyway. =
(Leslie=20
  chuckles)<BR><BR>TOM: No problem. No problem. No dumb questions here. =
Thanks=20
  so much for calling us at 888-MONEY-PIT. 888-666-3974.<BR><BR>I think =
Frank=92s=20
  got way too much time on his hands out there in Hawaii.<BR><BR>LESLIE: =
And the=20
  worst is now there=92s a whole host of scenarios going through my mind =
about=20
  why, perhaps, there might be too much water in there and what causes =
the water=20
  (Tom chuckles) =96 I=92m like, I don=92t even want to think about it. =
<BR><BR>John=20
  in South Carolina is having some water issues at his house. What=92s =
going=20
  on?<BR><BR>JOHN: Well, we=92re purchasing a house that was built in =
1926. It=92s=20
  been added on over the years. It=92s got a wonderful piece of =
property. The=20
  problem is it has not been occupied for a year. <BR><BR>TOM: =
OK.<BR><BR>JOHN:=20
  And we had a home inspection and the home inspector detected a strong =
odor of=20
  rotten eggs when he ran the hot water through the <A class=3DkLink=20
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  (overlapping voices) Mm-hmm, right. Mm-hmm. And did he tell you what =
was=20
  causing that?<BR><BR>JOHN: He suspected that there was a =
bacteriological=20
  problem within the hot <A class=3DkLink oncontextmenu=3D"return =
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  itself =85<BR><BR>TOM: (overlapping voices) Hmm, no. <BR><BR>JOHN: =85 =
and that I=20
  needed to install a sacrificial anode and that went right over my=20
  head.<BR><BR>TOM: Well, actually, I think it=92s the opposite. I think =
it is the=20
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  anode rod. It=92s a rod that is made of sort of self-sacrificing =
magnesium and,=20
  basically, what that=92s designed to do is dissolve in certain =
conditions and it=20
  protects the tank from rust out but it can result in a sulfur odor.=20
  <BR><BR>Now how old is the <A class=3DkLink oncontextmenu=3D"return =
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  Don=92t know yet. <BR><BR>TOM: Take a look at the data plate on the <A =

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relative">heater</SPAN></FONT></A>.=20
  It almost always has the date stamped on it. If it=92s close to 10 =
years old,=20
  replace the <A class=3DkLink oncontextmenu=3D"return false;" =
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relative">heater</SPAN></FONT></A>.<BR><BR>LESLIE:=20
  Just get a new one.<BR><BR>TOM: Yeah, and if it=92s not, you can =
actually remove=20
  the anode. Now that will void the <A class=3DkLink =
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  warranty because it won=92t be protected against corrosion, but it =
will make the=20
  sulfur smell go away.<BR><BR>LESLIE: So you would never replace the=20
  anode?<BR><BR>TOM: Nah, I=92d just remove it.<BR><BR>LESLIE: Heading =
out to=20
  North Dakota to talk to Paula about a decorating woe. How can we help=20
  you?<BR><BR>PAULA: Hi, I=92m calling because I have a bathroom that is =
covered=20
  in popcorn (Leslie chuckles); the little <A class=3DkLink=20
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  that=92s supposed to be on the <A class=3DkLink =
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  is actually on the walls, too.<BR><BR>TOM: Wow. Well, it=92s a good =
thing it=92s a=20
  bathroom because it=92s a small room. <BR><BR>PAULA: Yep.<BR><BR>TOM: =
Getting=20
  rid of it is a bit of a hassle but not impossible. What you want to =
do, Paula,=20
  is first of all you want to spray it down with some water and what =
works well=20
  for that is one of those pump-up garden sprayers. Get it sort of =
saturated and=20
  then you=92re going to carefully scrape it off. And the best tool that =
I=92ve=20
  found to use for this is a spackle knife. And after you get it all off =
and you=20
  get it as smooth as you possibly can, two things: first of all, make =
sure you=20
  prime the wall with a good-quality primer; and then, secondly, when =
you put=20
  your topcoat on, make sure you use flat paint =96 don=92t use anything =
with a=20
  sheen. Even if you do a really super-good job at trying to get all =
that=20
  popcorn off, it=92s still going to be somewhat uneven on the wall and =
if you use=20
  a paint with a sheen it=92ll show up whenever the light hits it. So if =
you use a=20
  flat paint it=92ll look really good.<BR><BR>PAULA: Right. But there =
again, my=20
  problem too is that being a bathroom it needs to be really scrubbable, =

  too.<BR><BR>TOM: Then I would use a scrubbable flat. I would use a =
washable=20
  flat and I would use one with a mildicide.<BR><BR>PAULA: OK, thank=20
  you.<BR><BR>TOM: You=92re welcome, Paula. Thanks so much for calling =
us at=20
  888-MONEY-PIT.<BR><BR>LESLIE: <A class=3DkLink oncontextmenu=3D"return =
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  maintenance is on Eileen and George=92s minds. What can we do for=20
  you?<BR><BR>TOM: I was wondering =96 I have to maintenance my <A =
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relative">furnace</SPAN></FONT></A>.=20
  It=92s a new house that I have; about three years old. What do I need =
to do and=20
  why do I need to do it?<BR><BR>TOM and LESLIE: (chuckling) =
OK.<BR><BR>TOM:=20
  Eileen, I guess suffice to say you=92ve never done any maintenance =
work to this=20
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  before, huh?<BR><BR>EILEEN: Well =96 no, actually, my mother used to =
do it=20
  =85<BR><BR>TOM: OK.<BR><BR>EILEEN: =85 and she=92s no longer =96 =
she=92s=20
  passed.<BR><BR>TOM: What kind of <A class=3DkLink =
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  is this? Is it gas?<BR><BR>EILEEN: It=92s electric <A class=3DkLink=20
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  with a heat pump.<BR><BR>TOM: Oh, it=92s a <A class=3DkLink=20
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  </SPAN><SPAN class=3DkLink=20
  style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: 400; FONT-SIZE: 12px; COLOR: #154896! important; =
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  OK.<BR><BR>EILEEN: Brand new.<BR><BR>TOM: Alright. Well, if it=92s a =
heat pump,=20
  then you may actually not need to do too much because the service for =
the heat=20
  pump is essentially the same as the service for the <A class=3DkLink=20
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  A heat pump is essentially an <A class=3DkLink oncontextmenu=3D"return =
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  that=92s got a reversing mechanism so that it can actually heat in the =
winter=20
  and cool you in the summer. It=92s not like having a <A class=3DkLink=20
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  </SPAN><SPAN class=3DkLink=20
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  where =85<BR><BR>EILEEN: Right.<BR><BR>TOM: =85 you know you have to =
run that in=20
  the winter and it gets dirty and needs to be cleaned separate from the =
air=20
  conditioner. But have you =96 did you have the <A class=3DkLink=20
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  serviced this summer?<BR><BR>EILEEN: Yes.<BR><BR>TOM: Well, I think =
you=92re=20
  probably OK, then. There=92s not much else you need to =
do.<BR><BR>EILEEN: So I=20
  don=92t =85<BR><BR>TOM: No. Just because it=92s turned to the heating =
season, you=20
  don=92t have to actually do something extra because it=92s the same =
service. You=20
  essentially have a compressor. Now, you know the only other thing you =
might=20
  want to make sure that you=92re doing is changing those filters on a =
regular=20
  basis or installing an electronic air cleaner.<BR><BR>EILEEN: Right, I =
do=20
  that.<BR><BR>TOM: But other than that, there=92s not much that you =
need to=20
  do.<BR><BR>EILEEN: OK.<BR><BR>TOM: Alright?<BR><BR>EILEEN: I thank you =
very=20
  much for your help. Appreciate it.<BR><BR>TOM: Alright. Well, good =
luck with=20
  that project. Thanks so much for calling us at =
888-MONEY-PIT.<BR><BR>LESLIE:=20
  Rick in Washington needs some help with a bathroom remodel. How=92s =
the project=20
  going?<BR><BR>RICK: It=92s going pretty well. We=92re down to deciding =
which type=20
  of tub we want and we=92re wondering if a ball-and-claw cast iron tub =
would gain=20
  us any value in the home after the <A class=3DkLink=20
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  versus a resin-style =96 the newer-style resin tubs.<BR><BR>TOM: Well, =
the good=20
  news, Rick, is both will get you equally clean. (Leslie and Rick =
chuckle) In=20
  terms of return on investment, you know I think that a remodeled =
bathroom by=20
  itself is going to be a great improvement because surveys are showing =
that you=20
  get somewhere in the area of 80 to 90 percent return on investment for =

  remodeled bathrooms and <A class=3DkLink oncontextmenu=3D"return =
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  <BR><BR>Now in terms of which one is going to be right for your =
project;=20
  that=92s more of a decorating choice, I would think, =
Leslie.<BR><BR>LESLIE:=20
  Yeah, I mean absolutely. If your home is of the certain time period =
and=20
  architectural styling where the claw-footed tub is really the right =
choice,=20
  then =96 I mean in my opinion, you cannot compete with a claw-footed =
tub.=20
  They=92re gorgeous; they=92re ginormous; you can take a beautiful, =
deep, long soak=20
  in a <A class=3DkLink oncontextmenu=3D"return false;" id=3DKonaLink32=20
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  like that and you=92ve just hit the nail on the head for my dreams of =
a bath and=20
  I would buy your house tomorrow if that was the case. But I really =
think it=92s=20
  up =85<BR><BR>RICK: See, the house is =96 I=92m sorry. The house is a =
1931=20
  farmhouse, so we didn=92t know if there was an inherent value in going =
with an=20
  older-style tub versus a newer-style resin tub.<BR><BR>LESLIE: I think =
if,=20
  consistently, you=92re going with historically accurate details, =
you=92re better=20
  off to go with the cast iron tub.<BR><BR>RICK: OK, very good. Also, we =
love=20
  your show. Thank you so much for the help.<BR><BR>LESLIE: (overlapping =
voices)=20
  Oh, our pleasure.<BR><BR>TOM: (overlapping voices) You=92re welcome, =
Rick.=20
  Thanks so much for calling us at 888-MONEY-PIT.<BR><BR>LESLIE: Well, =
the fall=20
  is the perfect time of year to tackle a painting project, but what if =
you=20
  never, ever wanted to paint ever again? Well, it is a possibility and =
we=92re=20
  going to tell you all about it, next.<BR><BR>[audio timestamp:=20
  0:18:19.1]<BR><BR>(theme song)<BR><BR>ANNOUNCER: The Money Pit is =
brought to=20
  you by the Western Red Cedar Lumber Association. Discover western red =
cedar=92s=20
  unique beauty, performance and environmental benefits at=20
  RealCedar.org.<BR><BR>TOM: This is The Money Pit Home Improvement =
Radio Show.=20
  I=92m Tom Kraeutler.<BR><BR>LESLIE: And I=92m Leslie =
Segrete.<BR><BR>TOM: Call us=20
  right now with your home improvement question. Call us right now with =
your=20
  do-it-yourself dilemma. The number is 1-888-MONEY-PIT. Call us right =
now if=20
  you=92d like to find out how you can have a house that you can paint =
once =96=20
  well, sort of =96 or at least order it painted (Leslie chuckles) and =
never have=20
  to touch it again for a long, long time. You know we are big fans here =
of=20
  modular homes; those that are built in factory settings that are =
climate and=20
  quality controlled.<BR><BR>LESLIE: Yeah, and now there is a way for =
you to=20
  actually get a factory-finished paint job for your existing home that =
you live=20
  in right now =96 whether it=92s a brand, spanking new home or a =
hundred-year-old=20
  home =96 and this paint job could last you 25, even 50 years. We=92ve =
got a great=20
  guest here to tell us all about it and it=92s our friend from Fine =
Homebuilding=20
  magazine, the editor, Kevin Ireton.<BR><BR>Welcome.<BR><BR>KEVIN: Hi, =
Leslie.=20
  Hi, Tom.<BR><BR>TOM: Kevin, you know this is something that I don=92t =
think we=20
  ever would have thought of as recent as just a few years ago; that you =
could=20
  have a paint application on wood siding that would last more than, =
say, seven=20
  or eight years. So how is it that the modular industry has sort of =
figured=20
  this out?<BR><BR>KEVIN: Well, I mean as you point out, everything is =
getting=20
  painted in a factory these days and finally somebody realized, =93Hey, =
you know=20
  we mill this <A class=3DkLink oncontextmenu=3D"return false;" =
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  and then we ship it to a lumberyard. We can ship it to a factory =
finisher to=20
  have it painted first.=94 And I=92m sort of embarrassed that I =
didn=92t realize that=20
  this was going on because I=92ve known for a few years now that you =
can get your=20
  cedar siding or fiber cement siding preprimed. <BR><BR>TOM:=20
  Right.<BR><BR>LESLIE: Mm-hmm.<BR><BR>KEVIN: And it=92s just =96 you =
know it=92s sort=20
  of obvious, when you think about it, that they can =96 you know =
they=92ve got it=20
  at a factory where they=92re putting that primer on. While they=92ve =
got it there,=20
  they can also put on one or two finish coats of whatever color you=20
  specify.<BR><BR>LESLIE: How is it possible? I mean is it really just =
the=20
  interior conditions, climate control, that actually cause the paint to =
adhere=20
  better, longer than if you were to put it on in an exterior=20
  setting?<BR><BR>KEVIN: That=92s most of it but another factor is UV =
degradation.=20
  It turns out that if raw wood =96 cedar, in particular =96 gets =
exposed to=20
  sunlight, it begins to degrade immediately and paint will not adhere =
as well=20
  to it. <BR><BR>TOM: So one of the keys here is that as soon as the =
wood is=20
  milled by the manufacturer it=92s sent right to the finish house so it =
never=20
  sees the light of day, literally.<BR><BR>LESLIE: =
Interesting.<BR><BR>KEVIN:=20
  Exactly. And then as Leslie points out, because you can control dust =
and=20
  humidity and temperature in a factory and you obviously can=92t on a =
jobsite,=20
  those things also contribute to the paint lasting much longer than it=20
  typically would.<BR><BR>TOM: Well, it sounds like it would definitely =
last a=20
  lot longer but what about the cost? Is this a situation where it=92s =
also less=20
  expensive to paint it in a factory than to, say, hire a housepainter =
to come=20
  out and do it after the siding is installed?<BR><BR>KEVIN: Tom, our =
research=20
  showed the answer to that question is yes. It=92s really hard to get =
an estimate=20
  on a paint job, hypothetically, but we tried. And what we came up with =
was a=20
  3,000-square-foot house with a factory-finished paint job coming in at =
about=20
  $3,500 and site-painted, that same house would cost from $7,000 to=20
  $10,000.<BR><BR>TOM: Oh, yeah. Or more. $3,500 is a pretty inexpensive =
paint=20
  job.<BR><BR>Now what about, say, the damage that=92s done as a result =
of the <A=20
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  process? I mean we have cuts and nail holes and trim and things like =
that=20
  =85<BR><BR>LESLIE: (overlapping voices) Mm-hmm, things that need to be =
touched=20
  up.<BR><BR>KEVIN: That=92s a really important sort of caveat to talk =
about here=20
  because in many cases, even with the factory-applied paint job, you =
will need=20
  to put one final coat on after the siding has been installed. It=92s =
definitely=20
  true with cedar; a little less the case with fiber <A class=3DkLink=20
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  because fiber cement seems to hold up a little better and you can get=20
  color-matched nails for your fiber cement.<BR><BR>TOM: Yeah, but since =
that=20
  siding is now being protected from UV; really, since it actually =
arrived at=20
  the site, there=92s really no chance for degradation. So you=92re =
really just=20
  putting a coat on for extra measure there.<BR><BR>KEVIN: Exactly. And =
again,=20
  important to remember that when you=92re installing the siding, any of =
those cut=20
  ends will need to be painted before the siding goes up. =
<BR><BR>LESLIE: Is=20
  there any guarantee to the durability of the paint? Are there =
warranties that=20
  come along with this? I mean can they even give you a =
warranty?<BR><BR>KEVIN:=20
  They absolutely give you a warranty. Most warranties are for 15 years =
if=20
  you=92ve got one finish coat at the factory and if you put two finish =
coats on=20
  at the factory, the typical warranty on the paint job is 25 =
years.<BR><BR>TOM:=20
  What wood siding manufacturers are using this process now,=20
  Kevin?<BR><BR>KEVIN: In terms of wood siding, you know a lot of the =
cedar=20
  siding that we use in this country is actually milled up in=20
  Canada.<BR><BR>TOM: Right.<BR><BR>KEVIN: So the way to get at this is =
simply=20
  to go to your local lumberyard and find out whatever cedar siding =
they=92re=20
  carrying and they can usually, at the lumberyard, arrange for a =
factory-finish=20
  paint job. <BR><BR>TOM: Fantastic. Kevin Ireton, the editor of Fine=20
  Homebuilding magazine. Great tip about a way to, essentially, order =
your=20
  siding prepainted and have it last up to 25 years.<BR><BR>Thanks,=20
  Kevin.<BR><BR>KEVIN: You=92re welcome.<BR><BR>LESLIE: Well, thank you =
so much,=20
  Kevin, for thoroughly making my laziness legitimate =96 now I never =
have to=20
  paint the outside of my house again (Tom laughs) and I=92m going to =
use it when=20
  I tell my husband, =93But let=92s get the manufactured tiles (ph) to =
come put them=20
  on the outside of my house. Kevin says I can.=94 So I thank you for=20
  that.<BR><BR>Alright, is your dark and gloomy kitchen making your =
cooking=20
  chores just plain dreary? Well, let the light in. It=92s easy and =
it=92s free and=20
  we are going to tell you how, next.<BR><BR>[audio timestamp:=20
  0:24:27.1]<BR><BR>(theme song)<BR><BR>ANNOUNCER: The Money Pit is =
brought to=20
  you by Therma-Tru, the nation=92s leading manufacturer of fiberglass =
entry and=20
  patio door systems. Choose the brand more building professionals =
prefer and=20
  add up to $24,000 to the perceived value of your home. For more =
information=20
  visit ThermaTru.com.<BR><BR>TOM: Making good homes better, welcome =
back to the=20
  Money Pit Home Improvement Radio Show. I=92m Tom =
Kraeutler.<BR><BR>LESLIE: And=20
  I=92m Leslie Segrete.<BR><BR><STRONG><FONT color=3D#ff0000>TOM: And =
did you ever=20
  wonder which appliance in your house uses the most energy? Well, it =
can be=20
  hard to tell; in fact, you might be surprised when you find out there =
is one=20
  way to tell for sure and we=92re giving it away this hour. It=92s a =
cool tool=20
  called a Kill a Watt Electricity Meter. It=92s available from the =
folks at=20
  CableOrganizer.com and it=92s going to go off to you if you pick up =
the phone=20
  and call us right now at 1-888-MONEY-PIT with your home improvement=20
  question.</FONT></STRONG><BR><BR>LESLIE: And that Kill a Watt is =
certainly=20
  going to help you save a lot of money and if you=92re looking to save =
a few more=20
  bucks here and there, think about turning off the lights. We=92ve got =
a tip=20
  that=92s really going to help you let in the light, save some money =
and=20
  especially if you don=92t like working in a dark area and a dark =
workspace or if=20
  your kitchen is just plain dreary, this is the tip for you and it=92s =
perfect=20
  for the cooler months =96 fall and winter.<BR><BR>All you need to do =
is go into=20
  your kitchen or your dining room and take off those <A class=3DkLink=20
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  and take advantage of the full, natural light. You can forego those <A =

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  just for these seasons. Put up some mirrors across from the windows. =
It=92s=20
  going to help double the light that=92s coming in and it=92s going to =
make the=20
  room feel a lot more open and a lot more airy. It really does help to =
change=20
  the feel of the space. And in the winter months, it gets dark so =
early; you=20
  really don=92t need them anyway. <BR><BR>TOM: And that tip comes =
straight from=20
  the pages of our new book, My Home, My Money Pit: Your Guide to Every =
Home=20
  Improvement Adventure, and I think it=92s titled Get Naked. (Leslie =
chuckles)=20
  Not you. Your windows. It actually is a great decorating tip. =
<BR><BR>Let=92s=20
  get back to the phones. 888-666-3974. Leslie, who=92s =
next?<BR><BR>LESLIE: Paul=20
  in Indiana has a <A class=3DkLink oncontextmenu=3D"return false;" =
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  question. What can we do for you?<BR><BR>PAUL: I have a house that was =
built=20
  in 1928. It is two stories and it has the red <A class=3DkLink=20
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  That sounds gorgeous.<BR><BR>PAUL: They=92re nice. They=92re nice =
looking. But=20
  during a heavy rain, we have recently developed a leak that will come =
to the=20
  main floor, basically in the kitchen area, from either the upstairs =
=96 not=20
  totally sure if it=92s the attic or we do have a door to outside that =
looks like=20
  it might have been a patio design at one point. But on the red tile <A =

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  I=92m not comfortable taking that stuff off and I=92m kind of looking =
for maybe a=20
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  that would specialize in that type of stuff if it=92s determined to be =

  that.<BR><BR>TOM: Well, first of all, in terms of sourcing out that =
leak, if=20
  you can get up into the attic with a <A class=3DkLink=20
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  the place that I would check is specifically around where plumbing =
vents come=20
  through the roof. Very often you get a boot around that that will =
break down=20
  because it=92s only rubber, generally, and it=92ll break down. So =
matter how good=20
  your tile is =96 the chances are the leak is not coming through the =
main field=20
  of the tile; it=92s probably coming at one of the points where =
there=92s some=20
  break in the roof, like where a <A class=3DkLink =
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  is or where a plumbing vent goes through.<BR><BR>Now, in terms of <A=20
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  it is difficult to find good-quality contractors but there are some =
services=20
  that can help you do that, one of which is called Angie=92s =
List.<BR><BR>LESLIE:=20
  It=92s a great resource. In fact, every person who is making a =
recommendation=20
  has no affiliation to the business whatsoever.<BR><BR>PAUL: =
Ah.<BR><BR>LESLIE:=20
  They=92re just regular consumers, like you and myself, who were really =
happy or=20
  unhappy with a job and then go ahead and post it there. So it=92s =
policed in a=20
  way to know that the company themselves are not putting up good =
information=20
  about themselves. And it=92s very local, so you can find a lot of =
folks in your=20
  area.<BR><BR>PAUL: Oh, OK. Great.<BR><BR>TOM: Sort of a social =
networking=20
  solution for finding a good-quality contractor.<BR><BR>PAUL: Very=20
  good.<BR><BR>TOM: Paul, thanks so much for calling us at =
888-MONEY-PIT.=20
  <BR><BR>LESLIE: Now we=92re going to talk to Michelle in Utah about =
brightening=20
  up a door. What can we do for you. <BR><BR>MICHELLE: I have an =
exterior door=20
  that I just had installed and it wasn=92t painted. It=92s a fiberglass =
door with=20
  some glass inside of it and around the glass there is a vinyl or =
plastic sort=20
  of material that=92s holding the glass in there. And I had to paint =
the door and=20
  I got some acrylic paint from a paint store.<BR><BR>TOM: Mm-hmm, and =
it peeled=20
  right off, right?<BR><BR>MICHELLE: And yeah, it=92s peeling off. The =
fiberglass=20
  part it=92s staying on just fine. But I=92ve tried twice. I =
=85<BR><BR>TOM: Well,=20
  when you painted it, have you used a primer or are you just putting =
the=20
  topcoat of paint right over it?<BR><BR>MICHELLE: I=92m putting the top =
coat=20
  right over it. <BR><BR>TOM: OK, here=92s what I would do. I would try =
to get all=20
  the old paint off; I would clean it really well with mineral spirits =
or=20
  acetone or whatever type of product you=92re using. And then I would =
get a small=20
  pint can of oil-based primer and I would prime it first. Primers have =
more=20
  adhesive qualities than the topcoat and they=92re designed to stick. I =
would=20
  prime it with an oil-based primer; nice, dry day; let it dry really, =
really=20
  well and then you could put whatever topcoat over that. And I think =
you=92ll=20
  have better adhesion luck with that.<BR><BR>Now, if your door was new =
and you=20
  didn=92t want to paint it; you wanted to stain it, there actually is a =
brand new=20
  stain kit on the market that=92s made by Therma-Tru that works very =
well. It=20
  comes with a five-year warranty and you can actually stain the door to =
look=20
  like wood. And these guys invented the fiberglass door so you know =
this is=20
  going to work. So that might be an option if you didn=92t want the =
paint look.=20
  But if you want the paint look, then what I think you should do is =
clean off=20
  what you have there, prime it and then repaint it.<BR><BR>LESLIE: Jan =
in=20
  Michigan needs some help with a patio. What happened?<BR><BR>JAN: Oh, =
well I=20
  have a patio that=92s quite old; it=92s about 20 years old. And they =
used pavers=20
  and in between each paver they grouted it with mortar. <BR><BR>TOM and =
LESLIE:=20
  OK.<BR><BR>JAN: And it=92s all broken up. I=92m tired of killing the =
weeds. I=92m=20
  always trying to kill the weeds. I=92m tired of it. So I asked the one =
landscape=20
  guy in our town to come and could he fix it and he said, =93Yeah.=94 =
So he brought=20
  a bag of like quickset cement and brushed it in and watered it and =
that didn=92t=20
  work at all. Now it=92s worse than ever because he had powerwashed it =
before he=20
  did that; so now I have these big, old gaping holes where the mortar =
was (Tom=20
  chuckles) and plus the weeds. So I have everything.<BR><BR>TOM: =
Alright.=20
  That=92s what happens when you call 1-800-SOME-GUY (all chuckle) to =
come fix it,=20
  you know?<BR><BR>JAN: Yeah.<BR><BR>TOM: You know there=92s a product =
for this=20
  that QUIKRETE makes. It =85<BR><BR>LESLIE: Mm-hmm, it=92s called =
Joint-Lock;=20
  PowerLoc jointing sand. <BR><BR>TOM: It=92s a sand that basically you =
sweep in=20
  and then you do water it, but it has a polymer in it so it solidifies =
and=20
  stops the weeds from growing back up. <BR><BR>LESLIE: Mm-hmm, but =
it=92s sort of=20
  still kind of flexible; so as it moves about with pressure from =
walking it=92s=20
  not going to crack apart. If you do ever need to change out a paver, =
you can=20
  sort of break that seal and pull out the stone without having to deal =
with a=20
  major concreting issue. <BR><BR>JAN: OK, thank you so much. I=92ll try =
that=20
  fix.<BR><BR>TOM: You=92re welcome. Thanks so much for calling us at=20
  888-MONEY-PIT.<BR><BR>LESLIE: I mean it=92s just a major, major =
maintenance=20
  project. You know where we live, on the northeast, my family has a =
vacation=20
  home that has slate; beautiful slate around a pool. But even out there =
on Long=20
  Island, you get the freeze and thaw cycle. Every, single summer it=92s =
a major=20
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  and the mortar joints. It=92s just terrible.<BR><BR>TOM: This is The =
Money Pit=20
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your=20
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Leslie=20
  Segrete.<BR><BR>Head online and click on MoneyPit.com and ask Tom and =
Leslie=20
  your question by e-mail and we=92re going to jump right into that =
e-mail bag=20
  right now. We=92ve got one from Maurice in Connecticut who writes: =
=93What wax=20
  would you recommend for a hardwood floor with a poly =
finish?=94<BR><BR>TOM:=20
  Actually we would recommend no wax, Maurice, because you=92re not =
really=20
  supposed to hard wax over polyurethane finishes; you=92re just =
supposed to clean=20
  them.<BR><BR>LESLIE: It=92s one or the other, right?<BR><BR>TOM: Yeah. =
If you=20
  have a varnish finish =96 you know the old-fashioned kind =96 then you =
might want=20
  to use like a paste wax; a floor paste wax. It=92s important that =
it=92s a floor=20
  wax because they=92re not slippery. But for polyurethane, you=92re =
really just=20
  supposed to clean them.<BR><BR>Now, if the floor is really getting =
worn and=20
  has totally lost its shine, it might be time to refinish the floor and =
a good=20
  trick of the trade for that is to not sand it down all the way but =
just to=20
  lightly sand the surface with a floor buffer and a sanding screen =
instead of a=20
  buffer pad. That will just sort of smooth off the surface of it and =
you can=20
  put one or two coats of poly over that and it=92ll be looking shiny =
all over=20
  again.<BR><BR>LESLIE: Alright, now we=92re going to take one from Roma =
in=20
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  apartment in a 1920s house. We cut an exterior door hole into the <A=20
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  and now we realize the bottom of the door foundation is almost seven =
feet to=20
  the ground surface.=94<BR><BR>TOM: Don=92t you think you should have =
figured that=20
  out before you cut the hole in wall. (chuckles)<BR><BR>LESLIE: Ooh. =
=93We need=20
  to protect the house from water and install stairs.=94 Do you think? =
=93In all our=20
  reading, it appears we will have to dig down from our already seven =
feet to=20
  drain the water away from the cement pad area outside the door. Is =
there=20
  another =96 and they write =93read magic=94 =96 way to do this?=94 =
(Tom laughs) =93The=20
  apartment is nearly ready to live in but we need the exterior=20
  entrance.=94<BR><BR>TOM: Hmm. Well, you=92re going to have to create, =
essentially,=20
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  that surround the sides of that opening. Now, in terms of the drain, =
you=20
  could, in fact, install a drain beneath that and then run that sort of =
around=20
  the house out to the street. I suspect that part of the landscape of =
this area=20
  is going to be lower than that actual doorway; that would be the way =
to drain=20
  that. But as far as the rest of the area, just make sure it slopes =
away from=20
  those retaining walls so no water falls back into that space. =
<BR><BR>LESLIE:=20
  So Roma, no magic; just a lot of hard work. Good luck.<BR><BR>TOM: =
Well, many=20
  of you don=92t know that Leslie is a fantastic cook. But the truth is =
that=20
  before she became so talented at that, her Thanksgiving shopping list =
used to=20
  include a turkey, stuffing and a fire extinguisher.<BR><BR>LESLIE: =
(chuckling)=20
  That=92s terrible. <BR><BR>TOM: Fortunately, things have gotten a lot =
better=20
  around the Segrete household since those days =96 those early days of =
her=20
  cooking adventures and in today=92s edition of Leslie=92s Last Word =
she=92s got some=20
  tips on why turkey and stuffing don=92t necessarily go =
together.<BR><BR>LESLIE:=20
  And I have to tell you, I speak from experience. This happened a =
Thanksgiving=20
  when I was much smaller and not doing as much of the cooking. And my =
sister=20
  Stephanie =96 gotta love her =96 she created this sort of lamb, rack =
of lamb,=20
  masterpiece; you know you deviate from the menu once and then 15 =
family=20
  members are in the bathroom fighting for hours and hours =
=85<BR><BR>TOM: There=92s=20
  no going back.<BR><BR>LESLIE: =85 and there=92s not enough toilet =
paper to fix the=20
  situation. So cook what you know but make sure that you maintain a =
proper food=20
  prep area. It really is so important because you don=92t want the =
folks that=20
  you=92ve invited over to get sick. So you want to make sure that you =
never=20
  prepare food on a surface that=92s been previously touched by the raw =
turkey or=20
  any raw meat that you=92re preparing. You also want to be sure to =
thoroughly=20
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  and the utensils that have come in contact with any raw meat. Wash =
your hands=20
  a lot. This is going to help prevent spreading harmful bacteria, =
because the=20
  last thing you want is your entire family reunion heading on over to =
the=20
  emergency room because, believe me, the party does not continue=20
  there.<BR><BR>TOM: Speaking of which, coming up next week on The Money =
Pit,=20
  we=92re going to have toilet tips (Leslie laughs) info on everything =
that you=20
  need from finding a leak to some great innovations in new toilets. =
There=92s a=20
  theme for the whole end of the show. (Leslie laughs)<BR><BR>I=92m Tom=20
  Kraeutler.<BR><BR>LESLIE: And I=92m Leslie Segrete.<BR><BR>TOM: =
Remember, you=20
  can do it yourself =85<BR><BR>LESLIE: But you don=92t have to do it=20
  alone.<BR><BR>[audio timestamp: 0:37:00.3]<BR><BR>(theme=20
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